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Ruth Deutschmann

Benjamin Epp

Salzburg

2000-03-03

1944

Yes. And, a glider pilot friend of hers who had emigrated to Sweden, I even know the name nor who her the protection she has the message to send it, that that since death camps were, where, so where as systematically the Jews are killed. And, uh, there - they went straight to Himmler and said, "Well, leader of what it's like I've heard and know?." And then he said only: "But Hanna can, as you believe that?" And then she just has thought, "Well, it will stop again be a slander." And, but she asked seriously, so that was it. - How the way, - on the Reitsch we have so got to know some people, and there was, we also learned, there came the break in 1938 came a general with Reitsch friends who visited us, who would then be first commandant of Warsaw. And, uh, when the saw that will be cleaned up as suddenly as it were, behind the backs of the military as with the Jews and therefore in any case gone and so on, as it is now sharply against it and immediately intervened, was now gone. - And then came on, then went before a disciplinary company in France. We have already experienced in war, and that has shocked even us. But, as I said, because even there we have not had the impression that the Jews really, I mean that with that the Jews evil is added, we knew from Austria already, then, is what we have none, uh, illusions, and that as terrible happens. But, but that they be exterminated, that they had neither known nor believed. - And by the way the Allies also believed much later than they would have thought. So when, at the meeting in Evian, where you have them leaked to clear. No, well, because you want that we will not stand up very early when the source added. But, I mean, it was just with us, and I think many were stunned at the at the end of the war, when they learned of the things. Completely stunned. Because it really - there was talk but always big, I mean yes because of Goebbels has always turned the screw even higher, but you have never believed that that is really there to reality. Just the way you can say in the "war" is already all there! Yes, my God, that is, there is a lot of propaganda and a lot of drama, so, you have never taken so seriously, right?